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Tori E. Owens's avatar

Excellent conversation! I could have soaked up @Matthew David Segall’s ideas, reflections, musings for a few hours. Brilliant and loving!

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👉🏻jonathan_foster's avatar

If anyone watching this is new to process influenced-open/relational theology and found some of the creativity/creature/God part of this challldnging, I wanted to say that lots of different thinkers work thru these things in different ways.

Not surprisingly Im probably an Oordian (Tom Oord) on these matters though he prbly wouldn't say it exactly like this, for me, I'm thinking that…

a-The nature of reality is a relational. Everything is in conversation with everything else. You can't get something from nothing. That the only thing that comes from nothing is nothing.

b-God as love. Love doesn't control. Therefore, God doesn't unilaterally dictate, determine, or "make things happen." Love is constantly interested in what the other has to say and co-creates.

c-God has always existed and has always been creating. (timeful) It's possible that there was never a time when God wasn't creating. Creation and the created are intricately linked in the same ways that a momma and her unborn baby in the womb are linked. One needs the other. That "the living ground" might be love and that love has been eternally in existence.

It's this last part (c), that if I had had more time, I would've asked for Matt’s reaction on.

Maybe next time!

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Greg Christoffel's avatar

Matt might say that existence proceeds from love, so nothing precedes love.

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